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		Comment on The Father and Jesus Compared by J.A Venter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/the-father-and-jesus-compared/#comment-649&quot;&gt;David E. Tucker&lt;/a&gt;.

Yahusha is a &quot;spitting image&quot; of His Father!  JUST LIKE many sons on earth look EXACTLY LIKE their earthly fathers!  This verse does NOT by any means imply that the SON is ALSO His Own FATHER.  That&#039;s absurd!
Joh 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 

Just like an earthly father can NOT father himself to be his own son, just so this same earthly physical law applies to our Heavenly Father and His Son! - 1Co 15:46 ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/the-father-and-jesus-compared/#comment-649">David E. Tucker</a>.</p>
<p>Yahusha is a &#8220;spitting image&#8221; of His Father!  JUST LIKE many sons on earth look EXACTLY LIKE their earthly fathers!  This verse does NOT by any means imply that the SON is ALSO His Own FATHER.  That&#8217;s absurd!<br />
Joh 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. </p>
<p>Just like an earthly father can NOT father himself to be his own son, just so this same earthly physical law applies to our Heavenly Father and His Son! &#8211; 1Co 15:46 </p>
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		Comment on Isaiah 9:6 is a Mistranslation by Sasa		</title>
		<link>https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1881</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1787&quot;&gt;Moshe&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually it&#039;s very very poor argumented opinion. 
First you have several variants of Septuagint and guess what in most of them which Orogen took from the Kews variant about Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace and Mighty God are more or less present. 
  Second Angelos (Messenger or Malak on Hebrew) in one of LXX variants is refering to a Angel of the Exodus which Jewish Targums refering that was Word-Memra -Son of God throughout God Created everything. 
(Targums use different word-Pihtama to refer when God is just talking or giving Decree but Memra is God&#039;s Word through out God Created everything and which represent God on Earth (not always but very often) 
 So Messiah will be Memra-Word-Son of God throughout God Created everything just like Gospel of John said and guess what Targum Neofiti said the same in the first line: 
https://archive.org/details/neofiti1genesis]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1787">Moshe</a>.</p>
<p>Actually it&#8217;s very very poor argumented opinion.<br />
First you have several variants of Septuagint and guess what in most of them which Orogen took from the Kews variant about Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace and Mighty God are more or less present.<br />
  Second Angelos (Messenger or Malak on Hebrew) in one of LXX variants is refering to a Angel of the Exodus which Jewish Targums refering that was Word-Memra -Son of God throughout God Created everything.<br />
(Targums use different word-Pihtama to refer when God is just talking or giving Decree but Memra is God&#8217;s Word through out God Created everything and which represent God on Earth (not always but very often)<br />
 So Messiah will be Memra-Word-Son of God throughout God Created everything just like Gospel of John said and guess what Targum Neofiti said the same in the first line:<br />
<a href="https://archive.org/details/neofiti1genesis" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.org/details/neofiti1genesis</a></p>
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		Comment on Isaiah 9:6 is a Mistranslation by Moshe		</title>
		<link>https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1787</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2023 06:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-92&quot;&gt;Steven D Miller&lt;/a&gt;.

Those are separate prophecies. In chapter 7 Isaiah is prophesying to Ahaz, assuring him that king Pekah of Israel and king Rezin of Syria (who had joined forced against Ahaz) will not prevail against him.

Ahaz was an atrocious ruler who sealed off the temple and shut the doors to the Torah schools. He indentured Judah to Assyria. 

By the end of 8 Isiah is telling us of the tremendous oppression the citizens of Judah are suffering under the hand of Assyria (Which Ahaz has brought upon them).

&quot;And the one who passes therein shall suffer hardships and hunger, and it shall come to pass, when he is hungry and wroth, that he shall curse his king and his god and face upwards.

And he shall look to the land, and behold, distress and darkness, weariness of oppression, and to the darkness he is lost.&quot;

Chapter 9 then begins, &quot;The people who walked in darkness, have seen a great light; those who dwell in the land of the shadow of death, light shone upon them.&quot;

2 Kings chapter 18 tells us that Hezekiah &quot;rebelled against the king of Assyria and did not serve him.&quot; He destroyed the high places (to idols) that his father had established and turned the nation back toward GOD. This light that has shone is clearly the dawning of Hezekiah&#039;s reign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-92">Steven D Miller</a>.</p>
<p>Those are separate prophecies. In chapter 7 Isaiah is prophesying to Ahaz, assuring him that king Pekah of Israel and king Rezin of Syria (who had joined forced against Ahaz) will not prevail against him.</p>
<p>Ahaz was an atrocious ruler who sealed off the temple and shut the doors to the Torah schools. He indentured Judah to Assyria. </p>
<p>By the end of 8 Isiah is telling us of the tremendous oppression the citizens of Judah are suffering under the hand of Assyria (Which Ahaz has brought upon them).</p>
<p>&#8220;And the one who passes therein shall suffer hardships and hunger, and it shall come to pass, when he is hungry and wroth, that he shall curse his king and his god and face upwards.</p>
<p>And he shall look to the land, and behold, distress and darkness, weariness of oppression, and to the darkness he is lost.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chapter 9 then begins, &#8220;The people who walked in darkness, have seen a great light; those who dwell in the land of the shadow of death, light shone upon them.&#8221;</p>
<p>2 Kings chapter 18 tells us that Hezekiah &#8220;rebelled against the king of Assyria and did not serve him.&#8221; He destroyed the high places (to idols) that his father had established and turned the nation back toward GOD. This light that has shone is clearly the dawning of Hezekiah&#8217;s reign.</p>
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		Comment on Isaiah 9:6 is a Mistranslation by Benjamin		</title>
		<link>https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1776</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1775&quot;&gt;admin&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so very much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1775">admin</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so very much.</p>
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		Comment on Isaiah 9:6 is a Mistranslation by admin		</title>
		<link>https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1775</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1773&quot;&gt;Benjamin&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your comment and insights. The heresy card is a last ditch effort by Trinitarian apologists to keep people in Trinitarian prison. May God bless your truth pursuits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1773">Benjamin</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment and insights. The heresy card is a last ditch effort by Trinitarian apologists to keep people in Trinitarian prison. May God bless your truth pursuits.</p>
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		Comment on Isaiah 9:6 is a Mistranslation by Benjamin		</title>
		<link>https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1774</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 02:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1645&quot;&gt;Omniscient&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t want to say much, but you just called respected (trinitarian) scholars like, Strongs, Brown, Driver, Briggs and many bible translators and two prominent persons in the bible, as well as some prophets, liars. Here&#039;s what they say about el...

Strong&#039;s #410: &#039;el (pronounced ale)

shortened from 352; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity):--God (god), X goodly, X great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in &quot;-el.&quot;


Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon:

&#039;êl

1) god, god-like one, mighty one

1a) mighty men, men of rank, mighty heroes

1b) angels

1c) god, false god, (demons, imaginations)

1d) God, the one true God, Jehovah

2) mighty things in nature

3) strength, power


Even worse... you are calling Moses a liar, since he uses el not only for God in Exodus 15:11, Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 28:32, Deuteronomy 32:12. What about David, he uses the word el for others in Psalm 29:1 (ESV) and in Psalm 36:6. And what about Psalm 82:1? God stands in the congregation of the mighty - KJV (or divine beings depending on the translation you use).

Even if you want to disregard all of these, you really have to take a look at Ezekiel 32:21. If El Gibbor means Mighty God as you claim, then we have a huge issue now... then El Gibbor - Mighty God -  is now laying with the uncircumcised in hell. O boy, we can&#039;t have that now can we? God is condemned to hell according to you since that&#039;s where el gibbor are. Not how el gibbor is translated in Ezekiel 32:21 and it can only be transalted as that, mighty men, strong men, mighty warriors.

As a side note, as far as I know, El Gibbor is only found twice in the bible. Gibbor El is, as far as I know, also found twice, which is translated mighty God. One could make the case that if El is before Gibbor, it&#039;s mighty man/men and if Gibbor is before El, it&#039;s Mighty God. That makes Jesus a mighty man of God and not a mighty God, a title that&#039;s preserved for the one and only true God, the Father.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1645">Omniscient</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to say much, but you just called respected (trinitarian) scholars like, Strongs, Brown, Driver, Briggs and many bible translators and two prominent persons in the bible, as well as some prophets, liars. Here&#8217;s what they say about el&#8230;</p>
<p>Strong&#8217;s #410: &#8216;el (pronounced ale)</p>
<p>shortened from 352; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity):&#8211;God (god), X goodly, X great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in &#8220;-el.&#8221;</p>
<p>Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon:</p>
<p>&#8216;êl</p>
<p>1) god, god-like one, mighty one</p>
<p>1a) mighty men, men of rank, mighty heroes</p>
<p>1b) angels</p>
<p>1c) god, false god, (demons, imaginations)</p>
<p>1d) God, the one true God, Jehovah</p>
<p>2) mighty things in nature</p>
<p>3) strength, power</p>
<p>Even worse&#8230; you are calling Moses a liar, since he uses el not only for God in Exodus 15:11, Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 28:32, Deuteronomy 32:12. What about David, he uses the word el for others in Psalm 29:1 (ESV) and in Psalm 36:6. And what about Psalm 82:1? God stands in the congregation of the mighty &#8211; KJV (or divine beings depending on the translation you use).</p>
<p>Even if you want to disregard all of these, you really have to take a look at Ezekiel 32:21. If El Gibbor means Mighty God as you claim, then we have a huge issue now&#8230; then El Gibbor &#8211; Mighty God &#8211;  is now laying with the uncircumcised in hell. O boy, we can&#8217;t have that now can we? God is condemned to hell according to you since that&#8217;s where el gibbor are. Not how el gibbor is translated in Ezekiel 32:21 and it can only be transalted as that, mighty men, strong men, mighty warriors.</p>
<p>As a side note, as far as I know, El Gibbor is only found twice in the bible. Gibbor El is, as far as I know, also found twice, which is translated mighty God. One could make the case that if El is before Gibbor, it&#8217;s mighty man/men and if Gibbor is before El, it&#8217;s Mighty God. That makes Jesus a mighty man of God and not a mighty God, a title that&#8217;s preserved for the one and only true God, the Father.</p>
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		Comment on Isaiah 9:6 is a Mistranslation by Benjamin		</title>
		<link>https://historicalfaith.org/isaiah-96-is-a-misstranslation/#comment-1773</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps a little bit blunt, but wouldn&#039;t it be easier to consult a Hebrew Bible on this verse? Before I continue, perhaps a little bit from my journey is in place.

While I&#039;ve gone to church for many years now, I always wondered about the trinity. Why is the one of the major doctrines of the church (yes, I&#039;m calling it the church, not christianity, since the church has doctrines and demands church followers to keep them - while being a christian is all about worshipping God and following Jesus the Messiah in day to day life - and not keeping a set of men written rules) not outright in the bible? Why does it need to be, as many church doctrines, pieced together from scriptures taken all over the place? If it is a simple truth, it should simple be stated outright. The older I get, the more I struggle with the trinity, simply because the outright texts in the bible state something else. Jesus in various places calls God his God. Paul is very clear: But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. John is clear: Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. There is only God and Jesus isn&#039;t Him according to the outright texts. Yet the church explains these texts away and sticks to their own doctrine about a triune god. In my surroundings it&#039;s hard to confess these things and it causes lots of issues, since my wife is very into the trinity and praying/talking to the Holy Spirit and such.

While I&#039;m still looking at all of it and seeing more and more that clear evidence points towards Jesus not being part of God, but a man appointed by God, I still struggle with Isaiah 9:6. That&#039;s how I came across this website. I&#039;ll be reading here more in the coming weeks. Just before coming here, a thought came to me, how does the Jewish bible translate this verse? So, I looked it up.... &quot;For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, &quot;the prince of peace.&quot; The notes on the verse then say this: The Holy One, blessed be He, Who gives wondrous counsel, is a mighty God and an everlasting Father, called Hezekiah’s name, “the prince of peace,” since peace and truth will be in his days. Quite interesting read.

Then I&#039;m reading Omniscient&#039;s replies. Throwing that famous heretic card into the discussion. As soon as people start doing that, I learned over the years that I might actually be unto something, getting closer to the truth.

Thank you for this article, it helps me on the way to discover the truth of Gods Word, instead of men&#039;s thoughts about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a little bit blunt, but wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to consult a Hebrew Bible on this verse? Before I continue, perhaps a little bit from my journey is in place.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;ve gone to church for many years now, I always wondered about the trinity. Why is the one of the major doctrines of the church (yes, I&#8217;m calling it the church, not christianity, since the church has doctrines and demands church followers to keep them &#8211; while being a christian is all about worshipping God and following Jesus the Messiah in day to day life &#8211; and not keeping a set of men written rules) not outright in the bible? Why does it need to be, as many church doctrines, pieced together from scriptures taken all over the place? If it is a simple truth, it should simple be stated outright. The older I get, the more I struggle with the trinity, simply because the outright texts in the bible state something else. Jesus in various places calls God his God. Paul is very clear: But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. John is clear: Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. There is only God and Jesus isn&#8217;t Him according to the outright texts. Yet the church explains these texts away and sticks to their own doctrine about a triune god. In my surroundings it&#8217;s hard to confess these things and it causes lots of issues, since my wife is very into the trinity and praying/talking to the Holy Spirit and such.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m still looking at all of it and seeing more and more that clear evidence points towards Jesus not being part of God, but a man appointed by God, I still struggle with Isaiah 9:6. That&#8217;s how I came across this website. I&#8217;ll be reading here more in the coming weeks. Just before coming here, a thought came to me, how does the Jewish bible translate this verse? So, I looked it up&#8230;. &#8220;For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, &#8220;the prince of peace.&#8221; The notes on the verse then say this: The Holy One, blessed be He, Who gives wondrous counsel, is a mighty God and an everlasting Father, called Hezekiah’s name, “the prince of peace,” since peace and truth will be in his days. Quite interesting read.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;m reading Omniscient&#8217;s replies. Throwing that famous heretic card into the discussion. As soon as people start doing that, I learned over the years that I might actually be unto something, getting closer to the truth.</p>
<p>Thank you for this article, it helps me on the way to discover the truth of Gods Word, instead of men&#8217;s thoughts about it.</p>
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		Comment on Why I&#8217;m Not a Jehovah Witness by Trudy		</title>
		<link>https://historicalfaith.org/why-im-not-a-jehovah-witness/#comment-1744</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2023 22:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/why-im-not-a-jehovah-witness/#comment-1410&quot;&gt;Darlene Lee&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said, Darlene.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/why-im-not-a-jehovah-witness/#comment-1410">Darlene Lee</a>.</p>
<p>Well said, Darlene.</p>
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		Comment on Why I&#8217;m Not a Jehovah Witness by Trudy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2023 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/why-im-not-a-jehovah-witness/#comment-968&quot;&gt;Andrew Graham&lt;/a&gt;.

All of those holidays should be left to an individual&#039;s conscience. The celebrating of them is not a sin, found in any scripture. But I myself would not celebrate anything where an untruth is found. Christmas is based on many false assumptions, as well most of the other celebrations. Although, to celebrate a birth of anyone is not based upon a lie. 

The main principal in order to be a follower of God through his son is that we pay more than the usual attention to the words he speaks. 
The Watchtower leaders are guilty of pulling his words out of the heart and minds of their followers. They have been able to accomplish this by creating a two class group. One class dies and immediately goes to heaven ( according to them but not according to scripture. ( 2 Timothy 2:16-18) 
   &quot; Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.&quot;

The apostles didn&#039;t allow the teaching that the resurrection for the many has begun after Christ&#039;s resurrection, yet the Watchtower, like most of Christendom teach it.

Their is one hope, just as the scriptures teach, one faith, one mediator.
The WT governing body tell their members , millions of them, that Jesus is not their mediator. 
Yet they pray through Jesus name. 
This religious group are not in the words of God.
They don&#039;t even know who Christ&#039;s other sheep are. ( simply the gentiles of the surrounding nations that accepted the teachings of Christ through his Apostles whom he sent to the world. ( Matthew 28:19-20 ) 

It&#039;s not &quot;THE other sheep&#039;... but CHRISTS&quot; other sheep, denoting ownership. Both the Jew and Gentiles are given the opportunity to become subjects of God&#039;s coming Kingdom. 

( Romans&#039; 1:16) -&quot;
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.&quot;

When Jesus returns, he will then say, &quot; Why say Lord Lord and you do not do what I say. &quot;
Instead, they pass the bread and wine away from themselves. They make disciples of the Watchtower instead of disciples of Christ. ( John 6:53 ) &quot; “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/why-im-not-a-jehovah-witness/#comment-968">Andrew Graham</a>.</p>
<p>All of those holidays should be left to an individual&#8217;s conscience. The celebrating of them is not a sin, found in any scripture. But I myself would not celebrate anything where an untruth is found. Christmas is based on many false assumptions, as well most of the other celebrations. Although, to celebrate a birth of anyone is not based upon a lie. </p>
<p>The main principal in order to be a follower of God through his son is that we pay more than the usual attention to the words he speaks.<br />
The Watchtower leaders are guilty of pulling his words out of the heart and minds of their followers. They have been able to accomplish this by creating a two class group. One class dies and immediately goes to heaven ( according to them but not according to scripture. ( 2 Timothy 2:16-18)<br />
   &#8221; Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.&#8221;</p>
<p>The apostles didn&#8217;t allow the teaching that the resurrection for the many has begun after Christ&#8217;s resurrection, yet the Watchtower, like most of Christendom teach it.</p>
<p>Their is one hope, just as the scriptures teach, one faith, one mediator.<br />
The WT governing body tell their members , millions of them, that Jesus is not their mediator.<br />
Yet they pray through Jesus name.<br />
This religious group are not in the words of God.<br />
They don&#8217;t even know who Christ&#8217;s other sheep are. ( simply the gentiles of the surrounding nations that accepted the teachings of Christ through his Apostles whom he sent to the world. ( Matthew 28:19-20 ) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;THE other sheep&#8217;&#8230; but CHRISTS&#8221; other sheep, denoting ownership. Both the Jew and Gentiles are given the opportunity to become subjects of God&#8217;s coming Kingdom. </p>
<p>( Romans&#8217; 1:16) -&#8221;<br />
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.&#8221;</p>
<p>When Jesus returns, he will then say, &#8221; Why say Lord Lord and you do not do what I say. &#8221;<br />
Instead, they pass the bread and wine away from themselves. They make disciples of the Watchtower instead of disciples of Christ. ( John 6:53 ) &#8221; “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.&#8221;</p>
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		Comment on Why I&#8217;m Not a Jehovah Witness by Trudy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://historicalfaith.org/why-im-not-a-jehovah-witness/#comment-99&quot;&gt;admin&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, The JW&#039;s must submit to every teaching their governing body prints or given in oral talks. 
I know, I was born into this religion. 
For example, If anyone does not agree to every JW doctrine, an elder arrangement is formed and then they ask the individual who questions the JW teachings:

&quot;Do you believe the Faithful and discreet are providing spiritual food at this time?&quot; 
If your answer is no, or I am not sure.&#039; 
You are quickly dis-fellowshipped from the congregation as an apostate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://historicalfaith.org/why-im-not-a-jehovah-witness/#comment-99">admin</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, The JW&#8217;s must submit to every teaching their governing body prints or given in oral talks.<br />
I know, I was born into this religion.<br />
For example, If anyone does not agree to every JW doctrine, an elder arrangement is formed and then they ask the individual who questions the JW teachings:</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you believe the Faithful and discreet are providing spiritual food at this time?&#8221;<br />
If your answer is no, or I am not sure.&#8217;<br />
You are quickly dis-fellowshipped from the congregation as an apostate.</p>
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